Thursday, September 22, 2005

Novak's Catholic Whig Tradition and much more...

Christopher has recently written some impressive posts on his various blogs below.

The Church and The Liberal Tradition blog
Aquinas:"First Whig?" - Novak's Catholic Whig Tradition

David Jones interviews Caleb Stegall

Against the Grain blog
Briefly - Response to Stephen Hand

Further Reflections on Jacques Dupuis

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

I read Caleb Stegall's online magazine, and the only word that summarizes my impression of him is Pluralism....Caleb is a Protestant who wants to see all non Catholic and Catholic religion as one, without distinction.

It is either Pluralism or Freemasonry, and I dont like it

Unknown said...

anon, apart from the accuracy of your analysis of tNP, I'm curious about why you'd call such a position pluralism... usually it would be described as religious indifferentism or false ecumenism.

(Either way, I don't think that's his view, but again, that's not my point here.)

Unknown said...

These posts are exhibits 3243, 3244, 3245, and 3246 demonstrating that Blostopher is one of St. Blogs shining gems, despite his errors in the WT/AT debate ;-))))

Anonymous said...

Re: Mr "Anonymous": In the words of DREADNOUGHT, "Ladies and gentlemen, we have a troll!" But while we are on the topic of pluralism, I find Mr Stegall's idea of "carnival" really interesting:


The carnival represented by Rabelais' work, and others—Pushkin, and Bruegel in his painting "The Battle of Carnival and Lent" for example—is a space where, for a time at least, the disparate elements of culture and society are brought together and shorn of pretense. The Prince and the Peasant, the Priest and the Penitent share the stage; they may trade places; for a while it may even be difficult to distinguish one from the other. It functions as a way to subvert "official" culture and hold at arm's length the worst abuses of society by fostering communal exposure to a shared and received tradition through which the commonwealth can recognize and reorient itself towards the spiritual order and transcendent ground which lies behind and above the mundane everyday orders of politics, power, religion, and money.


What I want to know is, how does Mr Stegall's idea differ from Fr Neuhaus's concept of "the Public Square." Both, of course, reject any notion of a "veil of ignorance," of bracketing your beliefs--but what are the points of tension between Neuhaus and Stegall? I wonder if there's an essay on this--if there is, I'm sure the Major will find it for us. ;)

Anonymous said...

One thing I've noticed--Mr Stegall's emphasis on "place", on a real, physical place. I think that that's important when talking about "The public square" or "carnival" or whatever. Where else can you have a free exchange of ideas? The blogosphere only goes so far... And my town, for example, has very little public areas. Strip malls don't count--you can't even hand out flyers there, it's all private property. Some GOP senator asked Judge Roberts what he thought about this very issue back during the hearings. Very interesting stuff.

Socrates nixed exile to Thessaly in part because there was no free and open public square in Thessaly...

Anonymous said...

Why would you care what a Protestant thinks of the one true Faith? Stegall is openly committing sin by enabling his heretical views on us(via the web) and his wife and children.

There is a plethora of good Catholic books out there, read them, and do not waste your time on this Protestant drivel!!

Evil Capitalist


What is a troll? Why do you name call?

Unknown said...

Which "heretical views" has Caleb "enabled on us", EC? I haven't come across any columns or articles at tNP on Protestant notions of the sacraments, justification, ecclesiology, or any of the other notable issues on which Catholics and Protestants of any stripe disagree.

Presumably you also oppose reading Touchstone and First Things b/c those journals regularly feature articles by other Christians and even those who do not profess faith in Our Lord.

As far as "why would you care"... I care b/c he is a brother in Christ, and with Vatican II, JPII, and BXVI, I cooperate with fellow Christians on matters on which we are in agreement.

Christopher Blosser said...

You know, on my blog I try to enforce a policy of "no anonymous comments." At the very least, one should have the courage to stand by his words and back them with his name. It would be nice to know with whom we were speaking . . .

Fr. D.L. Jones said...

I stand with Chris, Christopher, but especially, especially Fr. Jape.

Christopher Blosser said...

Indeed, tNP is a hotbed of diabolicals, the illuminati, roscicrusians, masons, bogomillians, fifth monarchist men, and even vampires working for Vlad the Impaler and Sathanas himself! Alchemists, hermeticists, masters of the prisca theologia! We have been duly exposed!

I knew it! I KNEW IT! CALL IN THE INQUISITION! UNLEASH THE DOGS!!!

Fred said...

Fr. Jape is right to call attention to the bogomillians. Their model of the church is so heinous that Avery Cardinal Dulles refused to include it in his Models of the Church.